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Are there really schools were every PNM is a size 0, 2, or 4, six feet tall, and blonde and blue eyed? :confused: I couldn't imagine it.
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Yea, you wouldn't think it'd happen, but it does. And I only go to school in Missouri. I'm going to guess that it's probably even worse in the South where greek life is an even bigger deal. I remember distinctly thinking on one day of rush this year as we were escorting the PNM's into our house, I was intimidated by some of them. It seems like every year they get better and better looking, seriously. AXJules can back me up on this, I was totally blown away by the girls that rushed this fall. The majority of them were blond, beautiful, immpecably dressed in expensive clothes, and for the most part they had decent personalities. :D As for the weight thing being a factor, I hate to say this, but it's true. I know that a lot of girls think that if they let in overweight people then they'll get the reputation as the "fat girls" and that can literally kill your chapter on this campus. A sorority right now is suffering from that exact thing. It sucks, but this is a very very competitive Greek system, and there are a lot of close minded people who aren't able to look past appearances. :( |
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It's funny because it's entirely based on comparison -- the fat sorority is really only "fat" compared to the gorgeous size 0s in the "blonde sorority." The groups on this campus that are struggling with their reps would, if transplanted to a lot of other Greek systems around the country, likely be in the top-middle tiers of the groups. For some groups at REALLY competitive schools, this is even more true. But like Kiki said, becoming the "fat sorority" can take a hit to your reputation far harder than almost anything else. Being the fat sorority is harder to recover from than being the junkie sorority, than being the slutty sorority, even than being the ugly sorority. I'm not sure why that is, but it's at least partially related to the fact that, historically, part of the rush process has usually been not just finding girls that you mesh with, but finding girls that will appeal to the fraternities. You just didn't see the same thing happening with the fraternities, where they were looking for the guys that would appeal to the sororities -- they took who they wanted to take. For better or for worse I've seen this changing to the point where a lot of frats ARE getting concerned about what kind of guys appeal to the sororities. But that goes along with the trend of guys becoming more concerned about their looks in general. AND brings us to another whole topic entirely . . . :p |
more on the weight thing
thanks to every one who truthfully discussed the weight issue/nonissue. when i introduced the topic in this thread i felt that i was taking a risk, but decided to take that risk and point out one more possible reason a pnm might not be invited back to a house. and we all know that in each of our organizations, on a national level, there are "fat" chapters, ugly chapters, genius chapters, gorgeous chapters, chapters overflowing with members and chapters that make you wonder how they survive year to year. and just because we state that looks might be a reason doesn't mean we think that it is right or even agree with it. and we certainly don't mean to discourage anyone from participating in the recruitment process. as always, there are exceptions to every rule! lisa
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I suppose that weight can obviously be seen as a difference for some of the chapters on my campus-- some aren't over a size 4 or 6 honestly. And my chapter doesn't do that, and if we become the fat girls some day and that kills us-- then I will be okay with it, knowing I have the beautiful (inside and out) girls to call my sister-- not the one that was dressed well in her size 4 pants.
I don't know-- I guess I feel that I would rather have a PNM that would bring A LOT to the chapter, no matter there weight or looks then anything. The truth is that rush goes so fast and everyone gets judged quicker than they would like-- but I never want to be THAT chapter that judges women based on their dress size. |
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Another thing to keep in mind is that many NPC groups have legacy policies that require them to keep someone for another round. On most campuses, and for most NPC groups, if a chapter releases a legacy it is a BIG DEAL and it is waste of that legacy's time to keep going back to COB events. [/Hijack] |
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My school was the U of S Carolina and I recall way back in the late 1980's you could tell almost 100% of the time which sorority a girl was in by how she looked. Yes we had the fat sorority and the ugly one and the one with all the homecoming queens. Rushing at U of Sc could be a traumatic thing if you did not meet the right "look." As shallow as it was, it was very much the prevalent idea at the time. In fact, I distinctly remember how nasty it could be. There was a girl on campus who was a quadraplegic and used a motorized wheelchair. She also had a sorority canvas bookbag attached to the back of her chair with XYZ letters embroidered on it. When I went to the COB party for this group, one of the FIRST things I was told was that that poor girl WAS NOT a member of their sorority and they were very angry she had gotten a hold of their bag.
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"There is not a historical high demand for overweight ugly girls..."
Please tell me who decided that overweight equals ugly? I make a great living as a plus-sized model and I don't think any of my fellow models are ugly. And most of us are sorority women (DZ, SDT, AGD, Tri Delta and Sigma Kappa), so at one point someone thought overweight was OK. It frightens me that the current train of thought is that the "reputation" of a house is more important than the quality of the members. The pressure it must put on PNM's is scary! GLO's are supposed to make its members feel good about themselves... |
I can comprehend.......
I know a certain group that wins almost every award imaginable every yr, and because of that stigma, they are also the smallest (28, average is 70). Also, a certain house could have thrown an awesome beach soccer tournament that was well presented and well put together, better than the rest of the houses that presented. But, the popularity contest kicked in. Thanks though ladies, you've really proved my point. |
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