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We took people based on two things:
1) What they could give us.
2) What we could give them.

That simple. And I tend to think that you will always be cut for a reason and not letting your personality shine through isn't some crutch - it's still messing up.

-Rudey

:( You weren't supposed to tell anyone.

LOL I probably wouldn't have put such a directly insulting comment in a rebuttal argument lol.

However, does your desire for me not to reproduce actually pertain to girls being cut by sororities? Or did you just want to take some random insults to Pm lol?

You have talked to me, I am pretty detached. I would discuss the situation pretty lucidly and objectively with her.

If that didn't solve the problem, I would just buy her something really expensive.

I am with Rudey when he talks about Big Money jobs lol.

i was just messing with you :D
but as for buying her something really expensive - you can't go wrong ;)

This will always be a big one..........

along with conflicts with a girl in a chapter- conflicts with alumnae! or alumnae that know you have a bad rep, nasty attitude, etc. from high school or elsewhere.

In sum...

If you don't get a bid from at least one house...YOU SUCK!










I hope you all know that I'm not being serious.

Hahaha, no.

I just meant that, if your GC persona is any indication, you would raise some rather f%$@ed up children. Especially if they're girls.

Of course, the way people act on an online message board isn't necessarily indicative of the way they'll act with their kids, so if you're actually a big cuddly supportive teddy bear kinda guy, go right ahead. And you certainly aren't the only person on GC that I would discourage reproduction for. ;)

one issue gcer's have been loathe to bring up is that of physical appearance - if your heart is set on being in xyz sorority and they are, for the most part, 6 ft tall, nordic blonde beauties, who all wear size 0 dresses , have gold plated saks charge cards,carry 4.0 gpas and all aspire to be brain surgeons, and you do not fit that category, that is why you did not receive a bid. if you weigh 200 to 300 pounds, that is why you did not receive a bid. appearance is one factor, and if you are not at least neat in appearance, with reasonably fashionable clothes, you will have to be stellar in other aspects to get invited back. it may seem harsh and superficial, but it is a factor. but, if one sits back and analyzes the situation and feels one falls into this category,and you still want to be in a sorority, you can do something about it-lose weight, check out some fashion magazines, get a new, more
up to date hair style. and i am speaking in general terms, not about a specific sorority, campus or pnm. i know that there are exceptions to every situation, but i also feel that we should be truthful with the pnm's.

James is supportive when he wants to be. :)

I say this is more discouraging then anthing to PNM's, this whole thread would turn me off from rushing... I don't think it's really do anything beneficial but hurting PNM's and changing their minds about how possibly superficial the greek system may be.

But it's realistic.

There are superficial aspects in each and every part of life.

Like a lot of people have said in various discussions.... it's like a job interview. You want to present yourself in the best possible light, which includes appearance. Yeah, it may not be "fair" or whatever could be argued, but IT'S LIFE.

And it varies from school to school. But one thing that will not vary is if you do not have pride in yourself, you will get cut (which includes pride in your apperance. Regardless of weight or money, you can be clean, presentable, and dress in a way that's flattering- 10 rolls hanging out isn't flattering on anyone).

When people don't take care of their appearance, they also tend not to take care of themselves on the inside as well. Yes, there are people who take care of themselves physically but are a mess inside. But if you care about yourself, then you want to present yourself in the best possible light.

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