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James 01-14-2004 02:27 AM

Going to RUSH? READ THIS before you post ANYTHING!
 
Ok. We know you want to tell us about your Rush experience. We know you want to ask for advice, encouragement and feedback.

Thats terrific. There are a lot of people on here that will hang on your every word and be very supportive. :)

However, you don't know who might be reading your story! And you don't know what effect that might have on your RUSH.

For your own piece of mind assume girls from every single house you are Rushing are reading your posts.

There are people that have gotten CUT from Rush because of what was posted here. You do not need people forming negative opinions about you from a chat site. Rush is grueling enough.

That being said here are some tips.

1. Don't tell us what school you are Rushing at. You can tell us later. That can mess you up.

2. Don't tell us which sororities are at your school or that you will be visiting. People can actually figure out your school by the names of the groups on campus. If you want names, make up "pet" names for them. Like Red, Alpha, One, etc.

3. Don't tell us the number of sororities on campus. Make up a number. Again, with the number of groups and some casual description some of the readers can research and find out which campus you are at. I know it sounds like they are obsessive and have too much time on their hands . .. but there you go.

4. Don't tell us the exact skit that you saw until after Rush. Again, people have too much time on their hands and can figure stuff out.

5. Don't tell us in which order you made out your bid card . . . EVER! Although common sense would say that not naming the groups should cover that.

6. Don't ever tell us you didn't get your first choice if you are going to Pledge a different group. Why let that get back to the girls and possibly effect you?

7. Do not respond to any PM's and Emails asking you any of the above. Or IM's. Assume you have NO friends until Rush is over. Its a week. Surely you can keep secrets that long? Assume that anyone you tell will tell others and it will get back to the girls that are Rushing you. If I hear stuff as a Fraternity Male, you know stuff really gets around.

Keep in mind that there are over 30 thousand registered users on this site! And God knows how many lurkers. Thats a lot of chances that someone might be in a position to mess up your Rush.

Anything I left out?

Oh and good luck. :)

Munchkin03 01-14-2004 02:30 AM

This is all true. We all know how exciting Rush is, and GC--for the most part--is a supportive community. BUT...you never know who's going to read your posts!

Discretion is key! :D

breathesgelatin 01-14-2004 04:10 AM

Thanks for this, James. SOOO true.

I will say it probably won't hurt you to disclose one bit of info--ie, just the number of groups, but the more time goes on I'm beginning to think that posting the name of your school, house names, or preference list is a BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD idea.

That said, good luck ladies!

aopinthesky 01-14-2004 08:15 AM

James,
That is all excellent advice. I am sometimes amazed at how many views a thread has had in relation to how many people have actually responded to something. It strikes me that there are MANY more people reading on GC than posting. You just never know who they are.

butterfly2001nc 01-14-2004 08:16 AM

could a moderator or someone pug this under IMPORTANT so it can stay at the top so it doesn't just kind of fade away


GREAT advice btw!

sugar and spice 01-14-2004 08:34 AM

Hahaha I think this is a little bit of an exaggeration.

Speaking as somebody who DID have someone rush at her school this fall, even though she named some of the first round themes and skits, I still wasn't entirely sure which house was which until her second round. Some of the houses had the same skits (four of them all had Hollywood themed skits), some of them had entirely new skits from when I'd rushed . . . If she had left the skits/themes out, I probably wouldn't have known for all of rush, and even if I had, I wouldn't have known who she is.

However, this is at a rush with 11 houses and 500 girls going through, so you have a bit more anonymity than if you were going through at Munchkin's school.

My rule of thumb has always been this: If they don't know who you are, you're safe even if they know what school you're at and what sororities you go to. So don't post what you're going to wear, your name unless it's very common and the rush has a decent number of girls, any really strange things you discussed while you were at a house ("At XYZ I talked to a girl who raises pet lizards, just like me!"), or any other identifying details.

Your level of discretion can depend on how many girls are going through rush at your school.

blueGBI 01-14-2004 08:57 AM

Co-sign.

The internet is not anonymus. Even though I found a home, I thinking posting a rush thread hurt me during rush. I'd rather a PNM not post anything or give a general thread with no real clues and get a bid than a PNM post everything and get cut badly.

ZTAngel 01-14-2004 09:00 AM

I just want to remind everyone that we've had girls on GC who were cut from every house on their campus due to what was said on GC. You'd be surprised how many people read these rush threads. We've also had girls who have said that the sorority they are pledging was not their first choice; it got back to their chapter and caused some very awkward situations. I just want all PNMs to be aware that these message boards are not anonymous. While we would love to read your rush stories, just be mindful of what you post.

rainbowbrightCS 01-14-2004 09:26 AM

hey, I have not through rush but I do not think posting where I go to school hurts me. It has helps, because I have now got to met alumni from my school that gave me great sound advise.

Some one can post there story as long as she is polite, and she should not get hurt.

Like don't rank your favorites, or say you did not get your first choice (that is just mean) or say XYZ is nothing but sluts and are dumber then dirt (as my mom says it).

Its called discretion, think/speak/act/talk/type smartly.

I have no problem saying that I loved ZZZ or ABC and QWE had great skits. But then I will not say anything negative against any group, they may not be my home but they might be purfect for some one else.

Chris

ThetaPrincess24 01-14-2004 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rainbowbrightCS


I have no problem saying that I loved ZZZ or ABC and QWE had great skits. But then I will not say anything negative against any group, they may not be my home but they might be purfect for some one else.

Chris


I so agree! It erks me to no end when i read negative stuff like that about chapters. That's also exactly why Recruitment Counselors tell PNM's to keep opinions about where they go to themselves and not to talk about it with their friends. This is because you can have one girl really like a house and another girl have a strong opinion about it and the girl that liked it may not go back (eventhough that house may have been her best fit).

aopinthesky 01-14-2004 09:48 AM

Rainbow, James was just giving advice. Of course, there are exceptions to everything. Sugar and Spice pointed out that it is much easier to by anonymous at a large school than a small one. If I recall you will be at a small school with only 3 sororities. If you are comfortable posting your rush story then you should do that - there will be LOTS of people on GC who will be interested in it. The thing to remember is to be careful what you say. It will be very easy for someone on your campus to figure out who you are just from the details you have posted on GC so far. Even the smallest and most innocent remarks will be dissected and discussed if someone from your school is reading.

rainbowbrightCS 01-14-2004 09:50 AM

actually there are six at my school. 6 national with great reps...

that is why I will not say anything negative, I hate negativity.

GeekyPenguin 01-14-2004 09:53 AM

Great post. Example of what you could say:

"Today was ice water teas and we visited all the houses on campus. I wore a pink dress and sandals that weren't comfortable (BIG MISTAKE). I really enjoyed talking to the girls at all of the houses, and I can't wait to get my invites tomorrow. I especially enjoyed talking to girls at a few of the houses, but I'm trying to keep an open mind until tomorrow since it was only 15 minutes at each house."

What you should not say:

"Today was ice water teas and they made us go to all the houses even though I'd never ever join 5 of them. I wore a pink Lilly with palm trees on it and camel Coach heels. I really loved the girls at the Dolphin and Panda Bear houses, but I did NOT like the Teddy Bears, and the girl at the Turtle house is from my hometown and her dad does not make enough money."

rainbowbrightCS 01-14-2004 10:08 AM

yes, that is what I mean, a pnm can tell her story if she wants to with out hurting herself or others.




Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Great post. Example of what you could say:

"Today was ice water teas and we visited all the houses on campus. I wore a pink dress and sandals that weren't comfortable (BIG MISTAKE). I really enjoyed talking to the girls at all of the houses, and I can't wait to get my invites tomorrow. I especially enjoyed talking to girls at a few of the houses, but I'm trying to keep an open mind until tomorrow since it was only 15 minutes at each house."

What you should not say:

"Today was ice water teas and they made us go to all the houses even though I'd never ever join 5 of them. I wore a pink Lilly with palm trees on it and camel Coach heels. I really loved the girls at the Dolphin and Panda Bear houses, but I did NOT like the Teddy Bears, and the girl at the Turtle house is from my hometown and her dad does not make enough money."


33girl 01-14-2004 10:29 AM

I totally agree with all of the above. Also - you know when you put the info in your profile and it says "location"? If you say "Texas" or "Northeast" that's fine, but if you say "Greencastle Indiana" everyone will be able to figure out you go to DePauw even if you never mention it. Also don't use your email if it is something like susiesmith@nameofcollege.edu.

If writing it out with the names and your good and bad thoughts makes you feel better and helps you clear your head, write it in a journal. Not an LJ. Not a blog. An old-fashioned paper journal like your granny used to have when she was drooling over how dreamy Elvis was.

Oh and one more piece of advice. Don't wear electric blue spandex pants.

honeychile 01-14-2004 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl


Oh and one more piece of advice. Don't wear electric blue spandex pants.

Co-sign - too close to the azure blue catsuits!! ;)


Actually, I do agree with a good 95% of what was stated. As they say, "Everybody knows somebody who knows somebody who knows the President."

(Went to check my Penquins!) GeekyPenquin summed it up quite well.

Jill1228 01-14-2004 10:43 PM

Co-sign! Spandex is a Privilege not a right! :D

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Oh and one more piece of advice. Don't wear electric blue spandex pants.

tld221 01-14-2004 10:52 PM

any1 on the NPHC side of this arguement? i totally understand the discretion thing, but i could imagine you wouldnt even think about posting ur intake experience. correct? and for NPC, its a week. correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the whole process for NPHC last the entire semester? which means ur shut-mouth for about 3 months?

tnxbutterfly 01-15-2004 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tld221
any1 on the NPHC side of this arguement? i totally understand the discretion thing, but i could imagine you wouldnt even think about posting ur intake experience. correct? and for NPC, its a week. correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the whole process for NPHC last the entire semester? which means ur shut-mouth for about 3 months?

That would be correct. Before I found Theta Nu Xi, I did tons and tons of research on every sorority out there. When I hadn't even found a home, I posted maybe one thread asking about the correct way to research. My old screen name was prospectiverushee. When I was on-line, I still posted on GC, but nobody knew. Not even my family knew. Then when I became a beautiful butterfly of Theta Nu Xi, I was able to share with all my GC friends.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 01-15-2004 02:14 AM

eeesh, we make it sound like GC is a pride of lions lying in wait!

ZTAngel 01-15-2004 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
eeesh, we make it sound like GC is a pride of lions lying in wait!
some GCers are......

honeychile 01-15-2004 09:04 AM

My 2¢

Internet or no, avoid using profanity during recruitment! I realize that many people use it daily, but it just makes such a horrible first or second impression!

Even if the sisters think you're just super, an alumna hearing a potty-mouth will rarely think well of you after hearing it.

James 01-18-2004 01:47 PM

Bump

ThetaPrincess24 01-18-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
My 2¢

Internet or no, avoid using profanity during recruitment! I realize that many people use it daily, but it just makes such a horrible first or second impression!

Even if the sisters think you're just super, an alumna hearing a potty-mouth will rarely think well of you after hearing it.


This is quite true. Also talking negatively about other chapters during recruitment offline can bite you in the butt. One of my friends went through Kentucky's recruitment fall of 97. She and this other girl got caught by the dean of greek affairs making fun of one of the house's after coming out of one of their parties. Both my friend and the other girl were pulled from recruitment and were not allowed to continue. So PNMs if you feel the need to talk negatively about a chapter/house be mindful of who is around, otherwise keep a lid on it ! :)

James 01-28-2004 03:01 AM

bump

justamom 01-28-2004 08:33 AM

I agree with James 100%. I know I have PMed PNMs and warned them to say NOTHING! I bet others have too.

We could help some of these young ladies as well. If we see something that appears to give away too much information, PM them so they can do some damage control. Watch your posts on other threads as well prior to rushing.

There are way to many eyes looking over these threads during rush. All motives are not pure.

Also, for our part, leave them alone and stop begging them to name names. It's easy to feel relaxed on GC and open to seemingly nice people. It's natural to want to confide in someone who cares. It's also natural to want to share information/gossip, something GC is famous for.

ThetaPrincess24 01-29-2004 03:29 PM

I would like to add something else to this if I may...........

PNM's.......be very mindful of the image you portray of yourself on GC if you post in other areas besides the rush forum. People will read what you post and if you post something totally loopy or outlandish...........well you never know who might be reading your posts in other forums.........just be aware of that as well.......

33girl 01-29-2004 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThetaPrincess24
I would like to add something else to this if I may...........

PNM's.......be very mindful of the image you portray of yourself on GC if you post in other areas besides the rush forum. People will read what you post and if you post something totally loopy or outlandish...........well you never know who might be reading your posts in other forums.........just be aware of that as well.......

Good point Mary. Also...it really is not a good idea to post in the (for example) KKG forum and say "I really want to be a Kappa, it is the sorority I like the best!" and then post the same exact message in 3 other sororities' forums.

Jill1228 01-29-2004 07:58 PM

Definitely! Or spam ALL the forums saying "I want to be an XYZ". What is the required GPA?" Go to your school's Panhellenic site and read up! Or stop by the Panhell office and inquire!

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Good point Mary. Also...it really is not a good idea to post in the (for example) KKG forum and say "I really want to be a Kappa, it is the sorority I like the best!" and then post the same exact message in 3 other sororities' forums.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 01-29-2004 08:12 PM

But definately tell us all about how much you like to go out drinking.

carnation 07-28-2004 10:52 PM

Bumping this up--it has some good ideas on what not to say in a recruitment thread!

ADPiAkron 08-18-2004 04:36 PM

Re-bumping!

kappaloo 08-18-2004 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pixell
My only advice is to make sure you're not posting anything you'd be ashamed of (or wouldn't tell the sororities during recruitment) on GC. I know this sounds silly, but when I found someone from my school (a member of a sorority, when I was a pnm) on here, I looked up all her old posts to try and figure out if I knew her. So I'm sure other people do that too. Also, right after I pledged DZ one of the sisters mentioned that she had read my posts on GC. I was in the awkward position of trying to figure out if I'd said anything remotely negative or inappropriate on here.
Though nothing bad happened after my being "found out", I can imagine that if you post something negative about specific sororities during the summer, it could hurt you come recruitment (even if you don't mention specific names)

This should also be noted for active members too. People will look you up on GC- whether you're a PNM, NM, Active, Alum or Independant - makes sure you never say anything you wouldn't want them to read!

MTSUGURL 08-18-2004 05:52 PM

Be aware that people on GC talk to each other and people away from GC. Something you say in a PM or in a thread about a group can cause other groups to refuse you a bid... if I'm any clearer on that I'd have to give examples, and that would be inappropriate here.

James 09-02-2005 10:42 PM

ttt

librababy 09-13-2005 01:18 PM

good advice! *bump*

James 04-02-2007 05:41 PM

ttt

Stef the Pef 04-05-2007 10:39 AM

This ought to be a sticky--very good advice.


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